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Dougal Kronik · Oct 27, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

After checking the forums on the Prima Games website, a moderator stated that the guide was cancelled.

Nightfall Guide Cancelled

If it was cancelled will another company, like Brady Games, be releasing a guide.

Can Anet renegotiate with Prima Games to have the guide published?

I realize that wiki is better and up to date with any skill changes, but I do enjoy the maps (especially the continental map) and reading the guide when I am not near a computer for an extended period of time.

Titan Chrae · Oct 27, 2006, 05:56 PM // 17:56

If it is officially cancelled someone needs to inform the distributers.

Items not yet shipped:
Delivery estimate: October 27, 2006 - November 9, 2006 2 of: Guild Wars Nightfall: Prima Official Game Guide
Sold by: Amazon.com

Giga Strike · Oct 27, 2006, 05:58 PM // 17:58

oh that sux...

Hanok Odbrook · Oct 27, 2006, 06:15 PM // 18:15

When I went to pick up my Nightfall copies at Gamestop yesterday, I asked about it and they said they didn't even have the guide in their system, so I'm not sure what's up with it.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
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EternalTempest · Oct 27, 2006, 06:21 PM // 18:21

I remember a post that Gaile responded to when someone mentioned about the Nightfall guide... and her reaction was "what nightfall guide".

Hanok Odbrook · Oct 27, 2006, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by EternalTempest

I remember a post that Gaile responded to when someone mentioned about the Nightfall guide... and her reaction was "what nightfall guide".

That kinda bites. Even though the first one was error-ridden and only about 45% useful, and the second one only a bit better, I still would like to have one for Nightfall. I actually still refer to both the guides when in those campaigns, if just for the maps, and compiled info.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Sir Skullcrasher · Oct 27, 2006, 06:25 PM // 18:25

I thought Prima like to do Guide for Guild Wars? I wonder what happened to forced it to be cancelled.

Lil Pips · Oct 27, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

Any official word on this? Amazon still has it as Ships in 4-6 weeks, but it is no longer on ebgames or gamestop. I had the guide preordered but when I phoned eb/gs customer service, they told me the item was deleted from their database (so I cancelled the order).

Hanok Odbrook · Oct 27, 2006, 06:44 PM // 18:44

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Originally Posted by Lil Pips

Any official word on this? Amazon still has it as Ships in 4-6 weeks, but it is no longer on ebgames or gamestop. I had the guide preordered but when I phoned eb/gs customer service, they told me the item was deleted from their database (so I cancelled the order).

Amazon is flippy like that - I remember trying to get the Stronghold 2 guide from them, and it always said 4-6 weeks, but the estimated ship date kept getting pushed back. I even tried to get it from Borders, but they could never get it for me either. I forgot where I eventually came across a copy - some small B&M gaming store somewhere.

To cut to the quick, don't belive what amazon says. From what I am gathering it looks like the guide was never official, and it was just listed on these sites to get ppl geared up. Gaile would have mentioned something concrete about it if it was being produced. I'm thinking we're not getting one for C3, but I will keep digging for info and post here if anything changes.

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

Dougal Kronik · Oct 30, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Anet, allow some company to put out a guide!

I would prefer Prima Games - not for accuracy, but for format.

Knightsaber Sith · Oct 30, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

There was another discussion about that a while back. There's definitely something going on; but I wouldn't entirely trust the words of their mods. I was looking through some other sections in the prima forums and the same mod that said the Nightfall guide was canceled also said that there wouldn't be an HD dvd drive for the xbox360 for atleast a year; meanwhile they go on sale next month.
They seem to just post whatever they feel like without actually looking into it.

=HT=Ingram · Oct 31, 2006, 12:43 AM // 00:43

wanna know why? Its because of the Dismal Factions collectors edition sales. but that had VERY little to do with the map and strategy guide. it had more to do with the Lack of availability of the CE AT LAUNCH! If it would have been out WHEN the main game came out it would have sold better. It had NOTHING to do with the competing map, which in my opinion WAS superior anyway.

Now Nightfall strat guide is canceled and the fan forums are plagued with stupid lazy peoples questions on how to get out of Istan and How do I get out of Kourna, Bla bla bla... This is why Strat guides exists... the fact that these sometimes Twits decided to cancel a perfectly legitimate project that will now happen weeks later in Fan based form instead and be trawt with even more inaccuracies then the guide would be, is ludicrous to me what the marketing people are thinking...

It will not surprise me at all if map projects are canceled and go private so the community at large will NOT have n00bs in advance areas such as the gate of secrets and such.

Now I am continually PMed how do I get out of here, whats the quest to get to Kourna... How do I get the hero armor, bla bla bla. I'm at a point of saying go play the game for yourself and OMG READ THE GAME TEXT AND WATCH THE CUTSCENES!! Some people need to have their heads removed since they are obviously not using them is all I am saying...

Thanks alot for making life harder on those that actually play and making the lazy even more lazy then they were before anet. so now instead of making a little extra scratch on a strat guide your company will get nothing from it... As it is now 100% fan based... and if My suspicion is correct, when you make it a copyright issue on posted maps and fan guides it is all going underground and only the select few will have access to it... If I am correct which I think I am all these fan based site are about to get hit with copyright injunctions for posting game maps and content without a license to do so...

If so this is indeed a sad day for all of the GW community... and IT will be the downfall of the company. Because the min they insult the fan base with such actions and make them criminals in their eyes, they will see their fan base disappear... Don't believe me? Ask the music industry how their sales in any form have been in recent years... The image of someone holding on by their fingernails comes to mind...

Phades · Oct 31, 2006, 02:06 AM // 02:06

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Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Now Nightfall strat guide is canceled and the fan forums are plagued with stupid lazy peoples questions on how to get out of Istan and How do I get out of Kourna, Bla bla bla... This is why Strat guides exists...

What i don't undestand, is how these kind of people can play the game and waste money on a guide in order to read through it; since they wouldn't have those questions in the first place, if they read the in game text and paid attention.

Of course you phrase it better with the following.

Quote:

Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram

Now I am continually PMed how do I get out of here, whats the quest to get to Kourna... How do I get the hero armor, bla bla bla. I'm at a point of saying go play the game for yourself and OMG READ THE GAME TEXT AND WATCH THE CUTSCENES!!

Seriously, if people are actually going to pay money for something of this nature, it had better be correct and contain information that invariably becomes reverse engineered by the playerbase over time anyway. Quite commonly neither is the case, so its kinda pointless to publish something of this nature.

Fluffyx · Oct 31, 2006, 03:14 AM // 03:14

Why should this matter? The strat. guide isn't really all that helpful for an MMO that directs you in the right direction with its quests, not to mention arrows pointing you in the right direction. Also since GW is an online multiplayer game it has changes that the guide will be innacurate on. Sure it can be helpful but honestly the online communities are a much better source of the information you will need. They are dynamic and can change with the game, while a book cannot. If it is canceled oh well, it will make better players in the end. Learning things for yourself is always more rewarding.

Kalki · Oct 31, 2006, 04:33 AM // 04:33

guildwiki.org put them out of business

It's a really great site. You should check it out if you haven't already done so.

Brother Redmund · Oct 31, 2006, 05:23 AM // 05:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kalki

guildwiki.org put them out of business

It's a really great site. You should check it out if you haven't already done so.

True that ^^

The best and most readily available resources, either for the PVE or PVP aspects of GW will be found easily online. Here, wiki, tgh, team-iq for example. Why buy a guide?

nirhan shadowmauler · Oct 31, 2006, 05:41 AM // 05:41

i loved my factions guide. i bought them merely to collect them not to use them. really sad that i dont get a new one for nightall.

Asuka Jones King · Oct 31, 2006, 06:04 AM // 06:04

I thought it was kinda funny. When I picked up my Nightfall at Gamestop, the manager was digging through boxes like crazy, pulling her hair out. She SWORE that they had Nightfall guides somewhere, and since she had offered, I just let her search for a bit. Finally she gave up...

Reading this now makes the whole situation funny :P

Curse You · Oct 31, 2006, 06:15 AM // 06:15

Well, I told you people that the Prima guide is pretty useless. I think by now, the only things that the Factions guide is right about is what the map looks like...

Pevil Lihatuh · Oct 31, 2006, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Well I know GAME in the UK has trouble shifting GW guides; we still have both Factions AND Prophecies guides in stock, and we generally only get guides in with the first release of a product. People just don't want them; they realise its updated far too often. Something like WoW can get away with it but not a game that gets fixes every week.